View Full Version : Brig Alarm....................
K.Feldmeyer
03-30-04, 08:40 PM
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mardetsgt
03-31-04, 09:03 PM
you can count me in you lowlife, section 2 armory haunting , jarhead wannabe
K.Feldmeyer
03-31-04, 09:16 PM
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mardetsgt
03-31-04, 09:35 PM
Sgt. Jeffrey S. Simpson
PM me for more info
Personal Info removed for security reasons - E3
K.Feldmeyer
03-31-04, 09:39 PM
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mardetsgt
03-31-04, 09:41 PM
Jeffrey S. Simpson
E-mail address removed for security reasons - E3
K.Feldmeyer
03-31-04, 09:43 PM
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Billntwrk
04-01-04, 03:34 PM
Gentleman,
Might I suggest that you NEVER ever post your personal contact info in a Public forum? Identity theft get's it's start with less info.
Also (Buzz will back me on this suggestion) Use a Junk email address when posting info in the forum. I use yahoo. It's free and I can keep my primary eamil account free of Every Penis enlarment and Viagra Ad. To young for Viagra and to scared to even consider letting a knife get any where near 'da Jewels! LOL.
Seriously tho, Never post Full names with Phone numbers and or mailing address's. It is not prudent!
Bill's e-mail address removed so he doesn't get spammed any worse than he proabably already does ;) - E3
RigTheBarricade
04-01-04, 06:23 PM
I second that motion. I recently learned the hard way to the tune of almost $1500.00 that it can be done with less.
K.Feldmeyer
04-01-04, 07:33 PM
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RigTheBarricade
04-01-04, 09:29 PM
Sorry man, I thought about doing it...:)
But I'm glad that you did it before I did...:D
ROFLMAO!!! :rolleyes:
Actually guys, the best to exchange contact info is to use the Private Message System here on the forum. Everyone has it, just click on the PM button at the bottom of the post and send away. Since mardetsgt and K exchanged their info I'm going to remove it from the above posts so no one comes along and puts you guys on a SPAM list or worse yet, KP. :D
E3
Also, if you want to use Billntwrk's idea by going to a yahoo mail account then go to your user control panel and change your e-mail over to it in your profile in the options allow users to see your address. That will add the "e-mail" button to the bottom of all of your posts.
Billntwrk
04-02-04, 05:02 PM
My Email address, for this forum is still:
Billntwrk@yahoo.com
It has always been and it always be! Folks that read this forum know how to give the *Hi sign*! The rest, just piss me off and get the *Delete* reply!
Billntwrk sends
(Buzz, This Includes your sorry wing nut arse!) CHuckle! J/K !
Hi Everyone. :p
I just wanted to add that you don't open e-mail that you don't know the sender. You have to protect you personal information!!
:thumbsup:
If YOUR not having fun; YOU'RE not doing it right
17 Days til the Grand Opening (05/20/04)
you can count me in you lowlife, section 2 armory haunting , jarhead wannabe
One didn't want to be in the brig aboard Midway. Mardet made it kind of tough on the awardees. I remember them marching through the passageways screaming "gang way" Can't get away with hazing anymore. Saw court martial at K-bay for far less.
They were a lot of fun during Blue Bells too. "KEEP MOVING SAILOR!!!!" :p
Trigger
09-03-04, 07:42 PM
They were a lot of fun during Blue Bells too. "KEEP MOVING SAILOR!!!!" :p
Back when I was young and foolish, I spent a month in Midway's "Crossbars Hotel". Spent my 21st birthday there. It came about as the result of a disasterous love affair, some serious drinking, and a big case of the stoopids. It was definately not a fun place to be! It was a red line brig which means whenever you wanted something you put your stocking feet AT the line, not OVER it. If over, they stopmed your toe. If behind, they kicked your heel. You referred to yourself as "prisoner # whatever". If you referred to yourself as "I", you had two fingers jabbed in your eyes. When on a work detail out of the brig you wore your hat, Gilligan style, over your eyes, grabbed the outer seam of your trousers with thumb and forefinger, and went thruogh the passageways shouting "MAKE WAY, PRISONER". Like I said, no fun at all. But it helped me grow up. When I came out I was A J Squaredaway. Left the Navy as an ABE2. Now here's a question. I had made E-4 before I was busted. I got out as E-5. 5+4=9. Does that make me an E-9?....Trigger
.... Now here's a question. I had made E-4 before I was busted. I got out as E-5. 5+4=9. Does that make me an E-9?....Trigger
Man, I wish that's how it worked! :laugh:
When I was going through FRAMP training at NAS Whidbey Island I had the "honor" of driving a guy who was busted at CO's Mast around the base checking off a litany of stops (medical / personnel / clothing store / etc) until I finally got to drop him off at his ultimate destination.... Restricted Barracks. I can't remember the acronym for the place I just remember you never wanted to check in. This duty probably saved me from getting in trouble in the future. I was stuck there until the guys running the joint checked everything over on my "awardee". In fact, that's what the guys sentenced there had to refer to themselves as. There were no doors to the rooms and if I guy needed to go to the head he had to stand in the doorway of his room at attention and yell out, "AWARDEE so and so REQUESTS PERMISSION TO GO TO THE HEAD... SIR!!!!" Then you hear someone yell back, "GRANTED!". I could see how a few weeks in any of the Navy's restricted "members only" clubs would straighten anybody out.
K.Feldmeyer
10-25-04, 11:04 PM
Ahhh yes, Blue Bells....
Glad you guys enjoyed those little exercises! We enjoyed ripping the film out of the cameras of the idiots still walking around with them after they announced it all morning "No Cameras on the hanger deck" Then there was all the fun of a brig alarm "stick time!" Then you get some new boot trying to mail a letter or get stamps at one of these funny looking boxes with oneway glass near the mess decks.Buzzzzzzz...place sailor on face on deck insert shotgun........ Thanks for all the hours of fun :Poke: :Poke: :Poke: :Poke:
LOL
KF - Mar-Det 77-79
...Then you get some new boot trying to mail a letter or get stamps at one of these funny looking boxes with oneway glass near the mess decks.Buzzzzzzz...place sailor on face on deck insert shotgun........ Thanks for all the hours of fun :Poke: :Poke: :Poke: :Poke:
LOL
KF - Mar-Det 77-79
That wasn't me. :worry: :laugh:
I did slow my pace when walking through the hangar deck during blue bells... until I was told to "KEEP MOVING SAILOR!!!" :scary:
I thought you automatically threw dumbasses with cameras over the side? ;) s
Ahhh yes, Blue Bells....
Glad you guys enjoyed those little exercises! We enjoyed ripping the film out of the cameras of the idiots still walking around with them after they announced it all morning "No Cameras on the hanger deck" Then there was all the fun of a brig alarm "stick time!" Then you get some new boot trying to mail a letter or get stamps at one of these funny looking boxes with oneway glass near the mess decks.Buzzzzzzz...place sailor on face on deck insert shotgun........ Thanks for all the hours of fun :Poke: :Poke: :Poke: :Poke:
LOL
KF - Mar-Det 77-79
Hi Midway Fans :D
even on the Mobile Chirnobyl (CVN-65) the word was no cameras on the hanger bay, but let a group of civilians come aboard and you were blinded by the flashs going off. I always wondered why as a sailor I wasn't supposed to take pictures on the hanger deck but members of tour groups( IE: Civilians ) both in home port and in ports over seas could.
:thumbsup:
If your not having fun; YOU'RE not doing it right!!!!
Turbone
02-22-06, 01:07 AM
Ahem. Boy does this bring back memories. Not sure if I should be proud of it or not, but I spent 6 days in the Brig sometime in 74 (I think). I was sicker than a dog from something I caught in Korea and I said the wrong thing to my Division Officer when he wanted me to come to work early. Seeing how I was the only person in my Division, they really didnt want to send me to see the Capt, but the dick I was insubordinate to did. I knew what it was like topside with the "prisoners" but down in the Brig it was a whole different story. And of course I started out on the wrong foot by calling the "Turnkey" a turkey (Unintentional, really) That got me up against the bulkhead with my feet off the ground by a foot (I was 5'4"). Once things got settled and I found out the rules, I was really shocked. The shitter was in the general area and to take a dump you had to ask permission and then do it in front of everybody. Then another prisoner had to check and make sure you did, cause you were not allowed to sit. There was no way in hell I was going to sit in front of everyone and take a dump, so I didnt shit for 6 DAYS:nuts: Kept out of trouble for the next 5 days somehow. Got to see my buddies cracking up when it was chow time:fbomb: Then the night before my release I was told I had to take a fitness test. It was to show that I was not physicaly abused while in the Brig. Well, not shitting for 5 days must have done something to me cause I went a little overboard? Every exercise I was told to do, I tripled it, or more. I had the silliest shit eating:bore: grin on my face the whole time too. There was another kid doing the same thing next to me and he crapped out not even half way thru the test. I was really enjoying myself, working up a good sweat when I looked up at the main door. Heres about every Marine that could get thier face to the bars watching me. That just spurred me on more. They finally told me to stop, that was enough. The next day the Bat Officer (I think) came down and talked to me and the other guy(they decided to release him). I was told that I was only the 3rd person since the Midway was commisioned to ace the PT test in the Brig. Wow, cool. But what really threw me was when he asked if I wanted to change Services and become a Marine:o I thought about it for a sec and respectfully declined. I told him there was nobody in the Sqaudron to take care of all the Pilots and B/N's log books, etc. I had a cush job, I wasnt about to give it up. Things were alot different for me when I got out, I guess the word got around (Duh). Mostly it was the Marine Detachment, got alot of head nods, howdys and what nots from them. AND, the Zero's in the Squadron were quite abit more respectfull. My D.O. was quite beside himself, he was the one that sent me there:thumbs:
I'm glad I never got caught doing anything brig worthy. I had to go down there and do sick call. Most of the Marines were straight from boot camp and did what ever they were told. My have things changed.
nipon ginko
04-10-06, 10:48 PM
Ahhh yes, Blue Bells....
Glad you guys enjoyed those little exercises! We enjoyed ripping the film out of the cameras of the idiots still walking around with them after they announced it all morning "No Cameras on the hanger deck" Then there was all the fun of a brig alarm "stick time!" Then you get some new boot trying to mail a letter or get stamps at one of these funny looking boxes with oneway glass near the mess decks.Buzzzzzzz...place sailor on face on deck insert shotgun........ Thanks for all the hours of fun :Poke: :Poke: :Poke: :Poke:
LOL
KF - Mar-Det 77-79
"It looks like you were in quite some time after I was in but its probably a good thing you and I were not there at the same time ,I noticed that the jarheads always went on the beach with at least 3 of their buddies for protection. while in Hong kong I ran in to a British Marine off the ARC ROYAL he clamed they had a run in with some of the Midways Marines his claim was ,they wern't nothing mate , then he says we had a fight with some of your guy's from B division last night and they gave us one hell of a go. myself and one of my buddys used to like to sit on the wing of one of our planes in 3 bay and clap in time while the marines did clap hand charlies in front of the #3 elevator door ,they seemed to enjoy our help, who says the navy and marines can't have fun together." :thumbsup:
nipon ginko
04-11-06, 02:50 PM
Back when I was young and foolish, I spent a month in Midway's "Crossbars Hotel". Spent my 21st birthday there. It came about as the result of a disasterous love affair, some serious drinking, and a big case of the stoopids. It was definately not a fun place to be! It was a red line brig which means whenever you wanted something you put your stocking feet AT the line, not OVER it. If over, they stopmed your toe. If behind, they kicked your heel. You referred to yourself as "prisoner # whatever". If you referred to yourself as "I", you had two fingers jabbed in your eyes. When on a work detail out of the brig you wore your hat, Gilligan style, over your eyes, grabbed the outer seam of your trousers with thumb and forefinger, and went thruogh the passageways shouting "MAKE WAY, PRISONER". Like I said, no fun at all. But it helped me grow up. When I came out I was A J Squaredaway. Left the Navy as an ABE2. Now here's a question. I had made E-4 before I was busted. I got out as E-5. 5+4=9. Does that make me an E-9?....Trigger
" Trigger you wern't in a group that was taken to chow by this moron (marine) who didn't know how to guide the sailors that couldn't see because of the hats over their eyes and ran them over a table near the skullery with one loanly sailor sitting there with his back to this out of control freight train.Just happens I was that individual after I got the bodys off me and the table myself and this gentleman had a pretty length conversation over his inability to navigate. After I cleaned up the mess , I took the liberty of going down to the Brigg and talking to the Gunny ,he didn't seem to care that myself and the table were ran over ,but he was real interested in the fact that this jughead had stopped and talked to me ,so of course I filled him in on all the details of the conversation length ,topics etc and the fact that the sailors were milling around unattended.:Peck: "
nipon ginko
04-14-06, 02:17 PM
That wasn't me. :worry: :laugh:
I did slow my pace when walking through the hangar deck during blue bells... until I was told to "KEEP MOVING SAILOR!!!" :scary:
I thought you automatically threw dumbasses with cameras over the side? ;) s
" What the hell are Blue Bells?:whip: , I've heard of Balls but not Bells, as far as the comment about Cameras ,no comment, except to say that salt water never touched my skin !;) "
Blue Bells: Movement of special weapons guarded by Marines. The toughest motivational punishment that I saw was correctional custody at Camp Swampy (Lejeune). It was way out in the boonies at the rifle range. I glad I didn't go there either.
Outlw36
04-16-06, 01:07 AM
"It looks like you were in quite some time after I was in but its probably a good thing you and I were not there at the same time ,I noticed that the jarheads always went on the beach with at least 3 of their buddies for protection. while in Hong kong I ran in to a British Marine off the ARC ROYAL he clamed they had a run in with some of the Midways Marines his claim was ,they wern't nothing mate , then he says we had a fight with some of your guy's from B division last night and they gave us one hell of a go. myself and one of my buddys used to like to sit on the wing of one of our planes in 3 bay and clap in time while the marines did clap hand charlies in front of the #3 elevator door ,they seemed to enjoy our help, who says the navy and marines can't have fun together." :thumbsup:
My favorite was loadbanking NC-2's while the Marines were busy with thier exercising. Flip the switches and watch the black smoke roll lol.
What the hell are Blue Bells?
We called it blue ballz in weapons. It really sucked because life as you knew it ended until the evolution was complete, and those friggy dobermans with M-16's didn't help any either!
K.Feldmeyer
11-13-06, 10:30 PM
" Trigger you wern't in a group that was taken to chow by this moron (marine) who didn't know how to guide the sailors that couldn't see because of the hats over their eyes and ran them over a table near the skullery with one loanly sailor sitting there with his back to this out of control freight train.Just happens I was that individual after I got the bodys off me and the table myself and this gentleman had a pretty length conversation over his inability to navigate. After I cleaned up the mess , I took the liberty of going down to the Brigg and talking to the Gunny ,he didn't seem to care that myself and the table were ran over ,but he was real interested in the fact that this jughead had stopped and talked to me ,so of course I filled him in on all the details of the conversation length ,topics etc and the fact that the sailors were milling around unattended.:Peck: "
Are you sure you weren't part of that freight train? Probably the one in front yelling "Gangway". :spanking:
:D Read your posts with interest and Your right "ginko" every group has it's misfits. Sounds like the Mar-Det Way back then wasn't that squared away.
But hey you can't have everything.
If your goal was to get someone POed sorry about your luck, the Jughead comments are lame but hey, there is hope even for you. From you comments it looks like you were well on your way to a career as a snitch!
So how's that working out for you?:laugh:
K.Feldmeyer
11-13-06, 10:39 PM
" What the hell are Blue Bells?:whip: , I've heard of Balls but not Bells, as far as the comment about Cameras ,no comment, except to say that salt water never touched my skin !;) "
Sooooooo I guess you can't claim to be an "Old Salt"?:Poke:
I guess ginko was onboard before they had special weapons! Is your pic in the 46 cruise book? Or were you just not paying attention?:rolleyes: 70's kind of a haze in the ole memory banks????:smokin:
Probably never realized the boat was actually at sea.
Trigger
11-14-06, 10:45 PM
Sooooooo I guess you can't claim to be an "Old Salt"?:Poke:
I guess ginko was onboard before they had special weapons! Is your pic in the 46 cruise book? Or were you just not paying attention?:rolleyes: 70's kind of a haze in the ole memory banks????:smokin:
Probably never realized the boat was actually at sea.
I think Nippon and I were onboard the same time (62-66) and I never heard the term "blue bells" either. And if by special weapons (another term we didn't use then) you mean nukes, officially we didn't have them or we wouldn't be allowed in Japan. Unofficially the Jarheads, I mean our fine Marine detachment, sure spent a lot of time guarding one particular A-3
K.Feldmeyer
11-15-06, 12:41 AM
I think Nippon and I were onboard the same time (62-66) and I never heard the term "blue bells" either. And if by special weapons (another term we didn't use then) you mean nukes, officially we didn't have them or we wouldn't be allowed in Japan. Unofficially the Jarheads, I mean our fine Marine detachment, sure spent a lot of time guarding one particular A-3
Hey Tigger,
Can't speak for the 60's, The only other term was "shapes" and the A-3's were long gone by the time I got to the boat.
As for the term "Blue Bells", as far as I know the term has been around as long as "Broken Arrow" which goes back quite a ways. Perhaps one of the weapons people can varify the exact info but I'm pretty sure it goes back beyond the 60's.
nipon ginko
11-15-06, 11:25 PM
Are you sure you weren't part of that freight train? Probably the one in front yelling "Gangway". :spanking:
:D Read your posts with interest and Your right "ginko" every group has it's misfits. Sounds like the Mar-Det Way back then wasn't that squared away.
But hey you can't have everything.
If your goal was to get someone POed sorry about your luck, the Jughead comments are lame but hey, there is hope even for you. From you comments it looks like you were well on your way to a career as a snitch!
So how's that working out for you?:laugh:
" K. Feldmeyer glad to see you are still with us ,no the comment I made was only aimed at only one person (the the jug head that tried to run the prisoners over me not the whole MarDet) . You seemed to be a little gung ho with your comment about using shot guns on the navy personel and I thought it was uncalled for is the reason I made some of the comments I did and no I am not trying to piss anyone off , I suppose if our positions were reversed and you were the person who had a troop of prisoners ran over you you would get up and tell the individual who was guiding them he was a swell guy? I have a tendence to treat people like I am treated by them . I am kind of wondering where the comment of being on my way to having a career as a snitch came from if you are insinuating that I would turn people in for minor transgressions you are way off target I have never intensionaly turned anyone in for anything in my life if you consider my going down to the brig and talking to the Gunny being a snitch so be it if the Jarhead that caused the problem had been the least bit apoloetic we could have squared the problem away then and there but the guy was a horses ass my only recourse was to kick the shit out of him there and then which would have landed me in the Brig so I belive I chose the correct way of handling this . I seem to recall that the Prison groups used to call out "Make way Prisoner" not "Gang way" I think if you read some of my posts or Triggers you can probably figure out when I was on board and no I'm not a plank owner on the Midway.Well now that we have beat that subject to death lets move on to something more enlighting. My Best regards to you don't stay away so long give us some of your more pleasent experiences aboard or maybe some of the funny one's .:) "
K.Feldmeyer
11-16-06, 12:11 AM
Hey Ginko,
No offense taken, OK we're even.:beer: The Mar-Det had their share of screw ups too! To tell you the truth there were more than a few times I wished I had joined the Navy! Wearing those damned starched utilities, spit shining boots and all that other crap, why? Just so I could sit in a little steel box and watch a hole in the deck! I wanted to wear dungerees and grow a beard. And PT on the hanger deck or flight deck Ahhhh:fbomb: You don't know how many times I had wished you guys would move aircraft so we could knock off that crap.
You should have been around the time I was running to an aft alarm and lost my helmet. I took a mis-step and broke my stride, stepped on the knee knocker instead of over it near the post office and put a gash in the top of my grape damn near from ear to ear. You should have heard the ovation I got from the aft mess deck as they carried my sorry butt to sick bay!:OOPS:
Or the time the staff sergeant decided to form a drill team! What a circus that was:nuts: Tossing rifles in the air and missing them, breaking the stocks and watching the bayonet skid over the side at the elevator! Or how about the time the jerk in the detachment who just happend to work in the brig got busted with dope! We made sure he had to carry the buffer up to the admirals passageway every morning!:thumbsup:
Yea we had our problems too that bad part was it seemed like everytime it happened we always had an audience who was more than happy to exploit the opportunity! I'd still like to know who the asshole was who locked the hatch behind me when I went down to take mag temps one morning:sucker:
What was your most memorable screw up?
-KF
nipon ginko
11-16-06, 12:22 AM
Hey Tigger,
Can't speak for the 60's, The only other term was "shapes" and the A-3's were long gone by the time I got to the boat.
As for the term "Blue Bells", as far as I know the term has been around as long as "Broken Arrow" which goes back quite a ways. Perhaps one of the weapons people can varify the exact info but I'm pretty sure it goes back beyond the 60's.
" The only time I heard the term Broken Arrow was when John Travolta made the movie " never heard it aboard ship. Just for the record I was on a Nuke Weapons loading crew and am Quite fimilar with them At least the ones that were around at that time -our bomb gaurds were packing 45 cal.Tompson- we used to go watch them practice off the fantail thats one of the few times I was a little envious of them I would have really liked to have shot one of those.We always joked that they were shooting seagulls and maybe we were having chicken for dinner.:smokin: "
K.Feldmeyer
11-16-06, 12:30 AM
" The only time I heard the term Broken Arrow was when John Travolta made the movie " never heard it aboard ship. Just for the record I was on a Nuke Weapons loading crew and am Quite fimilar with them At least the ones that were around at that time -our bomb gaurds were packing 45 cal.Tompson- we used to go watch them practice off the fantail thats one of the few times I was a little envious of them I would have really liked to have shot one of those.We always joked that they were shooting seagulls and maybe we were having chicken for dinner.:smokin: "
Naw, Broken Arrow was the official term for damaged shape. If one fell off a bomb cart or something happened in the elevator or there was a screw up in loading that was the code. Blue bells or Balls:laugh: was just the code for special weapons movement. The roped off area in the hanger bay where you always saw us standing around watching these damned things was called the "pig pen". " Pig Pen".......Huh what the hell did that make us!:nuts:
-KF
nipon ginko
11-16-06, 12:52 AM
Hey Ginko,
No offense taken, OK we're even.:beer: The Mar-Det had their share of screw ups too! To tell you the truth there were more than a few times I wished I had joined the Navy! Wearing those damned starched utilities, spit shining boots and all that other crap, why? Just so I could sit in a little steel box and watch a hole in the deck! I wanted to wear dungerees and grow a beard. And PT on the hanger deck or flight deck Ahhhh:fbomb: You don't know how many times I had wished you guys would move aircraft so we could knock off that crap.
You should have been around the time I was running to an aft alarm and lost my helmet. I took a mis-step and broke my stride, stepped on the knee knocker instead of over it near the post office and put a gash in the top of my grape damn near from ear to ear. You should have heard the ovation I got from the aft mess deck as they carried my sorry butt to sick bay!:OOPS:
Or the time the staff sergeant decided to form a drill team! What a circus that was:nuts: Tossing rifles in the air and missing them, breaking the stocks and watching the bayonet skid over the side at the elevator! Or how about the time the jerk in the detachment who just happend to work in the brig got busted with dope! We made sure he had to carry the buffer up to the admirals passageway every morning!:thumbsup:
Yea we had our problems too that bad part was it seemed like everytime it happened we always had an audience who was more than happy to exploit the opportunity! I'd still like to know who the asshole was who locked the hatch behind me when I went down to take mag temps one morning:sucker:
What was your most memorable screw up?
-KF
This wasn't actually my screw up but I still caught hell for it . I was sound asleep and they called out battle stations ,condition zebra, and crew cut (the term for a nuke load at that time) I bounced out of the rack and jerked on my dungerees ,kicked on my flt deckers and they said condition Zebra will be set in three minutes ,I jerked on my red loading jersey grabbed my headset and headed for the hatch when they said cont.Zebra will be set in two minutes at the same time I hear the hatch slam shut and the dogs being driven home ,I was trapped then I turned and saw the phone so I rang up our ready room and told the O.D where I was and did he want me to call D.C. central to open the scuddle hatch ,he told me to hang up and he would call back(he never did) when we secured from Zebra I made my way up to the ready room and was just starting to ask him if he knew the location of my crew -when the officer in charge of my crew came in with every intension of getting a piece of my hide ,fortunately the O.D spoke up and saved my ass ,got my crews officer to calm down long enough for me to explain what had happened. He still insinuated I should have came up where they were when I escaped but he finally got over it I think. I've got this guy's e-mail address and have sent him a couple e-mails he has never answered them you don't suspose he is still pissed ? :mad: "
nipon ginko
11-16-06, 01:25 AM
Naw, Broken Arrow was the official term for damaged shape. If one fell off a bomb cart or something happened in the elevator or there was a screw up in loading that was the code. Blue bells or Balls:laugh: was just the code for special weapons movement. The roped off area in the hanger bay where you always saw us standing around watching these damned things was called the "pig pen". " Pig Pen".......Huh what the hell did that make us!:nuts:
-KF
"They used that term during my time aboard also and if you recall my statement earlier about my skin never being touched by salt water .the story behind that was we had a pig pen set up for several days and I went back to our shop and realized that my new 8mm camera was in the shop and vulnerable to getting legs and disappearing so I decided to take it back to my berthing area which was up next to the # 1 elevator stbd side as I am walking along I hear some one say what have you got in the case (this is the pig pen guard) I says ok I give up it's a camera so he says I've got to take it down to the brig. I ask what time he was going to do that and he gives me the time he gets off duty (actually it was a pretty pleasent exchange he explained to me the proceedure to recover my camera) I went down to the brigg at said time and talked to the Gunny he informed me that they had to develope the film ,I told him if he wanted I would unload the film for him but that it was a brand new roll had never shot an inch of it and showed him the counter on the side I could tell he was sort of leaning to my side of the question ,and I took the liberty of informing him of my statis as a Nuke weapons loader and I had first hand knowledge of the internals of the bombs that was more valueable than a picture of the out side which looked like a hotwater heater with a nose cone he agreed with me and returned the camera with a warning about taking greater care about lugging cameras around when nukes are out. What a relief !":worry:
K.Feldmeyer
11-16-06, 02:08 AM
I've got this guy's e-mail address and have sent him a couple e-mails he has never answered them you don't suspose he is still pissed ? :mad: "
Hmmmm! I would have to say......do you really care?:laugh:
If that is the worst you had happen you got off easy!
I also remember the time we had a softball game against navy at Yoko -Sucka,
And yours truely caught a line drive in the nuts, :eeek: Ole lefty swelled up to the point where I couldn't walk so they carted my sorry butt off to the the base hospital again. It was bad enough having to drop trow for the nurse but then the doc comes in and takes a look then steps out into the hallway and yells "Hey Bill come here you gotta see this!":lookathim
We used to do temps at mid-night and we had our aft mags above the fan tail and you had too ways to get back there. Either you could swing by the aft geedunk or through the grapes berthing. So these mags had alarms and before you'd undog the hatch you had better make sure O/C (Ordnance Control) called the marines and turned the alarms off or you'd get a special surprise......being put on the deck with a 12-gauge next to your head and having col. hardcore screaming some crap non stop. So I got even a few times at say 0 dark thirty. I'd be in the hanger watching some of the marines in sceevies flack jackets and helmets run to the aft mags it was a riot.
The other one that worked grand was hanging out near the forward SASS cage and having a member of the security force beating on the glass and screaming move on or something like that. And another one was when I was TAD to laundry we had to strip and wax the forward SASS/geedunk and barber shop area so you have to scrap the wax off the deck and so the Marines were fit to be tide yelling and foaming at the mouth. So I'd hit the shack with my buffer several times. Of course I'd get special treatment for the harassment and I'd say I was having issues controlling the buffer. After we'd both stand down it was smooth and it was our monthly disagreement.
Oh and my favorite was the pig pin. Never failed we'd have to get into the uptake and it was always hot in there unless we were off Korea doing team spirit. So the marines would think they were breaking bad. Our counter return was leaving the up take door open and all that hot air would blow out making it most uncomfortable. We'd hang around the space just out of hot air reach and act like we were working. Of course we'd get told after a while to close the hatch. We'd comply for about 5 minutes and then we'd open it again. One thing it was never a dull back then. I remember mandatory PT for all the fat bodies that was a real moment to witness everyday after chow.
K.Feldmeyer
11-16-06, 07:48 AM
Our counter return was leaving the up take door open and all that hot air would blow out making it most uncomfortable. We'd hang around the space just out of hot air reach and act like we were working. Of course we'd get told after a while to close the hatch. We'd comply for about 5 minutes and then we'd open it again. One thing it was never a dull back then. QUOTE]
You Bastard:laugh: Yea, you got me I had the buffer treatment a few times !!!LOL If you only knew how much of a pain in the ass it was to sit in that shit box for a couple hours!
This should give you an idea!20906
Did you have anything to do with the ord elevators? Seemed like everytime a bunch of us got together on the fwd mess deck these guys always had to access the elevator and we would have to pick up all our crap and move somewhere else.........seemed fishy to me....:rocketwho
I guess it is best described as cats and dogs until they learn to get along. I can only imagine having to be a young PFC or LCPL and have to do the shit jobs like gaurd shack duty. I worked with MAG 42 det Alameda after the Midway and too me airwing Marines were the best, not so damn tight all the time and they held the look of workers and not ceremony pons. Remember each of our jobs were equally important either to us or to the unit.
About the weapons elevator on the mess decks. ya'll should have learned to sit else where....:Poke: Because on one ship I was on we loved tearing down the first class mess to move ordnance. And see we'd just have to do during peak chow time:evil: just to piss everyone off:shrug:
nipon ginko
11-17-06, 03:51 PM
Hmmmm! I would have to say......do you really care?:laugh:
If that is the worst you had happen you got off easy!
I also remember the time we had a softball game against navy at Yoko -Sucka,
And yours truely caught a line drive in the nuts, :eeek: Ole lefty swelled up to the point where I couldn't walk so they carted my sorry butt off to the the base hospital again. It was bad enough having to drop trow for the nurse but then the doc comes in and takes a look then steps out into the hallway and yells "Hey Bill come here you gotta see this!":lookathim
" Actually thats not the worst ,I got injured on a night(late afternoon) launch ,just as our planes (Sky Raiders) started to taxi fwd our CO waved towards the group of maintence guy's I was standing with and each guy raised his hand ,the CO kept shaking his head no until it got to me which meant he had an electrical problem so I go over to the back edge of the right flap which was in the down position ,I grabbed the hand hold and jumped up on the leading edge of the flap with my right foot at that same monent the CO decided to put the flaps up and if you know anything about Hydralic's they jump when first activated so it jerked my right foot into the flap well pinning my toes between the flap and the upper edge of the well of course those damn flt deck shoes stick to anything so I couldn't pull it out ,then I tried jerking my foot out of the shoe no luck there either and all the time my foot is disappearing into this monster , at that moment I realized that my only hope of saving my foot from being crushed was to get the CO's attention I had a flash light in my pocket and proceeded to beat the shit out of the side of the A/C and when the CO turned to look(if he hadn't turned at that moment I was going to throw the damn flashlight at him) at me I started pointing down at my foot and all of a sudden it dawned on him what he was doing to me and I see his head disapear and the flaps stopped and then started going back down I managed to hobble up to the cockpit and found out his verticle gyro had crapped out .He flew out without it. later on I went down to sick bay and they were not much help, eventually the toe next to the big one swoll up to almost the same size and was all blue and nasty looking turns out I had some tendon damage in that toe : note: the day I checked out(Discharge) to head for home I went over and looked at the plane that was involved in this and the area where my foot had been nearly crushed had a 1/2" gap between the flap and the upper edge of the well when of coures it should have been faired. All I could think was damn was I lucky."::scary:
K.Feldmeyer
11-17-06, 04:04 PM
I hear ya brother!:thumbsup:
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