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Eagle3
11-25-03, 08:54 AM
1. The first German serviceman killed in World War II was killed by the Japanese (China, 1937), the first American serviceman killed was killed by the Russians (Finland 1940), the highest-ranking American killed was Lt. Gen. Lesley McNair, killed by the U.S. Army Air Corps - so much for allies.

2. The youngest U.S. serviceman was 12-year-old Calvin Graham, USN. He was wounded and given a Dishonorable Discharge for lying about his age. (His benefits were later restored by act of Congress).

3. At the time of Pearl Harbor, the top U.S. Navy command was called CINCUS (pronounced "sink us"), the shoulder patch of the U.S. Army's 45th Infantry Division was the Swastika, and Hitler's private train was named "Amerika." All three names were soon changed for PR purposes.

4. More U.S. servicemen died in the U.S. Army Air Corps than in the Marine Corps. While completing the required 25 missions your chance of being killed was 71 percent.

5. Generally speaking, there was no such thing as an average fighter pilot. You were either an ace or a target. For instance, Japanese ace Hiroyoshi Nishizawa shot down over 80 planes. He died while a passenger on a cargo plane.

6. It was a common practice on fighter planes to load every 5th round with a tracer round to aid in aiming. This was a mistake. Tracers had different ballistics so at long range if your tracers were hitting the target 80 percent of your rounds were missing. Worse yet, tracers instantly told your enemy he was under fire and from which direction. Worst of all was the practice of loading a string of tracers at the end of the belt to tell you that you were out of ammo. This was definitely not something you wanted to tell the enemy. Units that stopped using tracers saw their success rate nearly double and their loss rate go down.

7. When the allied armies reached the Rhine River in Germany, the first thing men did was pee in it. This was pretty universal, from the lowest private to Winston Churchill (who made a big show of it) and Gen. George Patton (who had himself photographed in the act).

8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City, but it wasn't worth the effort (?).

9. The German submarine U-120 was sunk by a malfunctioning toilet.

10. Among the first "Germans" captured at Normandy were several Koreans. They had been forced to fight for the Japanese Army until they were captured by the Russians and then forced to fight for the Russian Army until they were captured by the Germans and further forced to fight for the German Army until they were captured by the U.S. Army.

11. Following a massive naval bombardment, 35,000 U.S. and Canadian troops stormed ashore at Kiska, in the Aleutian Islands. Twenty-one troops were killed in the firefight. It would have been worse if there had been any Japanese soldiers on the island.

Credit Col. D.G. Swinford USMC (Retired).

jillamanda
11-25-03, 02:45 PM
:) It's a little known fact that my father was one of the legendary Rats of Tobruk in WWII.....

http://www.convictcreations.com/history/tobruk.htm

(just had to slip that one in, it's probably the only thread I'll ever have the chance......:) )

My brother still has all his medals etc, and there's some great old photos too - taken in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt etc. I often wonder what he would have thought about today's activities in the Middle East. He also had a whole stack of pics of Arab women - he never would tell me who they were or how he knew them :confused: :what: ;)

.....and I used to think that HE won the war when I was little - he was my hero.....

jillamanda
11-25-03, 02:53 PM
.....AND.....this is the back page of the Oxford dictionary he took to war with him (1933 edition of the Pox Ox Dix). He wrote the code he used in the desert in it.....

Pistol Pete
11-25-03, 10:23 PM
That's great, Jill! Take good care of his things. I was watching a bio on Rommel last night and it showed several clips of 8th Army and covered the back and forth battle for Tobruk. Maybe you dad was in one of them.
That code in the dictionary is a really great piece of history. :)

Eagle: Those are cool, and weird, facts. I sent them to people at work and elsewhere.

jillamanda
02-22-04, 05:13 PM
Probably the wrong place again, but it should be mentioned. We've finally honoured Nancy Wake, one of our WWII heroines. She's been honoured by France, the US and Britain, but not us.....until now. Well and truly overdue, she's an amazing woman.


White Mouse finally gets her gong

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/02/22/1077384636758.html?from=storyrhs

Pistol Pete
02-22-04, 09:01 PM
That's one tough lady, Jill. The stuff that legends are made from.

Here's a few snippets:
Germany spent a fortune trying to extract uranium, for a nuke, from 'heavy water' in Norway. They had no idea that Czechoslavakia, which they had occupied since 1938, had a huge amount of top grade uranium.

The first U.S. Medal of Honor recipient of WWII was a Coast Guardsman at Guadelcanal in August, 1942. He was manning a landing craft which he put between the Japanese, who were raking the water with machineguns, and Marines who were let out too far from shore by another craft. He stayed on postion until the Marines were safely picked up but he was then killed by a direct artillery hit.

President Roosevelt ordered the Navy and Coast Guard to attack all German surface and submarine vessels in the Atlantic Ocean in late 1940. That was a year before we declared war on Germany.

American commandos, trained by British SAS, conducted raids with the SAS in North Africa from 1940-1942.