Clinton's body count

[Eddy's Geist]

I’m always amazed when the “Clinton death list” rears it’s ugly head up. I’m sure that all of you have either received an email or seen a web page that has a list of names of people who were connected to Clinton is one form or another and have died of “mysterious” causes. What’s even amazes me more is that intelligent people will throw all logic and common sense out the window and are willing to embrace this information… no matter how thin the “evidence” might be.

Here’s a typical quote from one of the web pages:

“The list compiled here is not complete and is not detailed. It is presented to show how extensive the problem is and to illustrate that all these deaths could not be just a coincidence.”

Coincidence? Statistically speaking? Yeah… if you take any politician on the national level you would find that through the years they have come in contact and become aquainted with thousands of people. Out of those thousands you’re going to have a certain amount of deaths in any number that large. That’s just a fact of life and statistics.

Let’s look at a couple of the names given on the list and see if there’s another side to the story.

Hershell Friday:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/3450/deaths.html
Died: 3/1/94 - Killed when his plane exploded. Cause unknown.

It’s not unknown for planes to explode when they make contact with an unyielding surface… such as the ground.
All the same, Herschel Friday’s plane did not explode… the pilot and Friday died because of the impact and the impact happened because of a poor landing. See the NTSB report for further information (including an eyewitness account by the son of Friday).

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief2.asp?ev_id=20001206X00890&ntsbno=FTW94FA090&akey=1

Another “name” on the Clinton body count list is C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser. Both father and son died in a small plane that crashed in Alaska.

http://www.everwonder.com/david/suspicious.html
Son of C. Victor Raiser II
died: 7/30/92 - Both men died in a private plane crash in Alaska, en route to a fishing expedition. No cause was ever determined. Five others not connected to Clinton died with them. - DeeDee Meyers described Raiser as a "major player" in the Clinton organization. Victor raiser was also chairman of Mobile Telecomm Technologies Corp., whose subsidiary, SkyTel Corp. is an international paging company used by federal police agencies such as the FBI.

here’s another version

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/ARTICLES/CC.html

Another fellow 1992 fund raiser was C. Victor Raiser II, co-chairman of Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign finance committee. He and his son, Montgomery Raiser, died in a plane crash in clear weather. Associates report that he had become disillusioned by the campaign.

What is really amazing is that the pilot lived and the pilot also said that he was turning back because of “low visibility” caused by low clouds in the mountain range they were flying in. Anyone know of any pilots who will willing crash their planes into an obstacle? For that matter.. anyone know of any pilots who can crash their planes and kill the apparent target and yet survive themselves?

Also, why would Clinton kill one of his Finance chairman three months before the election? We all know how much Clinton enjoyed his finance contributions... did Clinton figure he had enough money and it was high time to kill the guy? And what about any of the other "major players" in his organization, why weren't they killed too? http://bushwhacked.net/ubb/wink.gif

Here’s the NTSB report:
http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20001211X15018&key=1

Take a look at the following URL for a different take on each death. Great details and great commentary!
http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/outrage/clinton.htm#friday

[shotglass]

What about Vince Foster?

[Eddy's Geist]

Vince Foster... out of all the people that were supposidly murdered by Clinton this is the one that probably has the greatest chance of being true. The question is why?

Rumors have swirled around for years that Vince and Hillary had been having an affair.. all the same I don't see either of the Clinton's really having an issue with the other having an affair. So I'd scratch this as a reason for his murder.

"On 10 October 1997, special prosecutor Kenneth Starr released his report on the investigation into Foster's death, the third such investigation (after ones conducted by the coroner and Starr's predecessor, Robert B. Fiske) of the matter. The 114-page summary of a three-year investigation concluded that Foster shot himself with the pistol discovered in his right hand. There was no sign of a struggle, nor any evidence he'd been drugged or intoxicated or that his body had been moved. "

[This message has been edited by Eddy's Geist (edited 12-24-2001).]

[Auff]

Clinton killed Foster because Foster knew too much, started to raise questions and was not seen as a "team player". Proof? None whatsoever. The Clintons are much too careful to leave any evidence. Unless of course you count the semen on Monica's dress. What kind of person would save that dress? A person who did not want to end up like Vince Foster did. Monica would have simply "disappeared" along with Chandra Levy if that dress had not been around.

[Eddy's Geist]

I'm still upset with Clinton that he showed such poor taste in women.

[Auff]

She would be OK if she lost about 50 pounds. She is the typical JAP (Jewish American Princess) that we used to joke about before political correctness came along. A long as you were popular and had a fat wallet, they were quick to go down, threw good parties and were usually pretty cute.

[Eddy's Geist]

It's ok Auff.. you can say JAP without the standard disclaimer. It's still a joke around here http://bushwhacked.net/ubb/wink.gif

[shotglass]

I believe we must now add Buddy the dog to this list.

What did he know, what did he see? Was he found in Fort Marcy Park? Will Janet Reno obstruct this investigation? Is Hillary shredding his veterinary records? Did he see Chandra at the Chappaqua house?

We MUST find the truth!

[JBMoney]

Who Killed Clinton's Dog?
What did Buddy know, and when did he know it?
By Mickey Kaus

http://slate.msn.com/?id=2060576

[Note: Kausfiles received the following from a gravelly-voiced outdoorsman in Arkansas who refused to give his name.]

"It was strictly an accident. The dog just darted out." That is what the media wants us to believe about the death of Buddy, Bill Clinton's 4-year-old Labrador retriever. (See "Who Is Buddy?" Wall Street Journal, Dec. 1997.) But is the truth about this—the latest Clinton casualty—that conveniently simple?

What do we really know about Buddy's death? Who stood to benefit? Consider the following:

* On Dec. 19, 2001 Clinton has a meeting in his Harlem office to discuss ways to repair his "battered" image. The meeting is described in the New York Times as having a "special urgency." An image-building speech on globalization at Yale has apparently not brought Clinton the expected public sympathy.

* Democratic leaders, Clinton is reported to have said, had not spoken up sufficiently on his behalf. They could not be relied on.

* Present at the meeting was Bruce Lindsey, Clinton's secretive consigliere and the man entrusted with the Clintons' most distasteful tasks.

Exactly two weeks later, Buddy was dead. As could have been predicted, Clinton benefited from a wave of public sympathy—sympathy he hadn't felt since at least Sept. 11. Clinton's office almost instantly issued a press statement saying the Clintons were "deeply saddened by Buddy's death."

It's almost as if it had been planned all along.

A look at the actual circumstances of Buddy's demise does little to allay suspicions. As many as nine strange facts remain uninvestigated. Consider:

THE NINE SUSPICIOUS FACTS ABOUT BUDDY'S DEATH

1. With all the high-tech security available to an ex-president on the Chappaqua property, the Clintons had apparently somehow failed to install what a dog expert called "the one essential safety feature, an invisible fence." This system would have given Buddy a small shock as he neared the property line, warning him not to cross it. Unless, of course, it had been turned off.

2. We are told that on Jan. 2, the day of Buddy's mysterious, violent end, "neither Clinton nor his wife was at home." Is this really a coincidence? Would the former first couple pay $1.7 million for a suburban headquarters and then just happen to not be at home when their dog is killed? On the other hand, if you wanted to do away with your dog, you'd want no fingerprints. Wouldn't you arrange to be out of town that day?

3. Would the trained ex-presidential personnel entrusted with Buddy's care really unintentionally allow him to "bolt" through the "front door" chasing a "contractor"? Who were these handlers? Why haven't such key eyewitnesses been subpoenaed?

4. Who was the shadowy "contractor" and why did he leave in such a hurry? What was he installing at the Clintons' residence, which had been fully remodeled several years ago? Isn't it strange that he would leave the gate open, when any "contractor" worth his salt knows that an open gate plus a dog equals a lawsuit?

5. Buddy is said to have "scampered" fully "600 feet down the road," and then another 100 feet on heavily traveled Route 117 before he was hit. Have you ever "scampered" 600 feet, the length of two football fields?

6. The 17-year-old "high school senior" who allegedly ran over Buddy has been described in the press as a "pretty brunette"—the same description, practically, that was once applied to White House intern Monica Lewinsky. What, if any, was her connection with the ex-president?

7. It is illegal in Chappaqua to allow a dog to run outside your property without a leash unless the dog is "under the owner's voice or visual control." Was Buddy actually being controlled? If not, who decided, at what level, to break the law? Why did an employee of the town clerk's office in heavily Democratic Chappaqua tell the New York Post (Jan. 4) that the penalty for violating this regulation only applies if a dog is picked up by a dog catcher?

8. Celebrity dog trainer Bash Dibra has now come forward, in the Post (Jan. 4), to say that he strictly advised Clinton to always use a leash with Buddy outside the home. Why was this celebrity advice ignored?

9. Writing in the New York Times, a former Clinton aide, now a shadowy "communications consultant," discloses that when Clinton was in office—perhaps at the very height of the impeachment scandal—Buddy would "pad on down to the basement of the West Wing, poking his nose into the wastebaskets outside Sidney Blumenthal's office." Yes, that Sidney Blumenthal, the partisan conspiratorialist who is so often at the center of Clintonian machinations—the same Sidney Blumenthal who had seemingly eerily anticipated last week's deadly event by writing a play about a scandal involving the president's dog. Why Blumenthal's trash, and no one else's? What did the doomed Labrador find there? Had Buddy smelled too much?

Connect the dots. It doesn't add up. No other conclusion seems even possible. Perhaps some subpoenas would help shake loose the real story. But who in Congress will step forward to do what is necessary?

Remember: When they say it's not about the leash, it's about the leash!

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LATE-BREAKING EVIDENCE OF COVERUP

One who might know the answer to some of the questions surrounding Buddy is Trumper, Buddy's neighbor. (See "Who Is Trumper?" WSJ, Aug. 2001.) But, as if to silence this witness months before the event, Trumper, a Shih Tzu, was put down by its owner in October. Was Trumper ill—or simply another name on the growing list of Clinton victims?



[This message has been edited by JBMoney (edited 01-13-2002).]