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princess b
12-10-05, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Princess B on 06.19.01 (or something like that)

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Why is my reproductive future of such great import to so many?<p>I don't recall ever wanting children. I have never changed my mind, and I am unlikely to ever do so. There is absolutely nothing about it that appeals to me. In spite of this, I find myself the constant target of rude and intrusive questions and comments from breeders. &quot;When are you gonna have one?&quot; &quot;How many do you want?&quot;<p>The shock with which my emphatic declaration of never wanting children is met is bizarre to say the very least. Breeders seem to take some sort of offense to a woman who doesn't want children. And they invariably respond in one way, one infuriating way: &quot;You'll change your mind.&quot; They say this with such smug certainty.<p>Why is it so shocking to so many that an educated, independent, relatively successful woman would decide not to have kids? My opinion regarding the answer to that question is a harsh one: I think that so many parents (particularly of young children), deep down inside, regret their decision to have kids and can't bear to watch a blissfully childless person enjoy all their freedoms. Since they can never admit such regret to themselves or any other, they must bring everyone down with them. Misery loves company.<p>For some reason, society seems to dictate that children should be had - our government even subsidizes procreation. Many have children just because they feel that's what they are supposed to do. It seems that it never occurs to some people to just not have kids.<p>So they have them, and their lives are never the same. They find that they end up never doing so many of the things they had planned for their lives. They can't travel, spend their money on frivolities, or in any way be spontaneous or adventurous with their time. Then they inevitably meet someone who has decided not to have kids. Someone who does whatever they want, whenever they want to. Someone who can travel on a whim, stay out all night, screen their calls, and put out a doormat that says 'GO AWAY'.<p>That's when the insulting questions and comments start, &quot;when are you gonna have kids – you'd be such a great mom&quot; and blah blah blah.<p>I have begun to respond in an equally insulting manner. I simply ask back. &quot;Why should I have a kid?&quot; &quot;Why do you have kids?&quot; &quot;Why did you think you'd be a good parent?&quot; &quot;What was so lacking in your world that you felt the need to bring a kid into it?&quot;<p>I hear the oddest reasons for people wanting children and for wanting me to have them too.<p>Some have them to save their marriage. That's brilliant, such people don't deserve to have their marriages saved.<p>Some have them because they don't want to be alone when they are old. Sadly, having kids doesn't guarantee that they will interested in caring for an elderly parent.<p>Some have them because they want to run for office and need the kid, along with the golden retriever and sedan for the photo opportunities.<p>Some have them because they don't want their name to die out. All these people need to do is open up the phonebook or get onto the internet to realize that they are not the last person on earth with their last name.<p>It's true that many many responsible and loving couples carefully plan to have children. That's great. Have ten of them. I don't care.<p>Just leave me alone. Leave me out of it. I don't tell breeders to give their kids away or sell them or abandon them in a shopping mall so they can enjoy the kind of life I lead. Why do they feel the need to tell me that I should have kids and lead their kind of life?<p>And worse, why do they think that having their spawn shoved at me is going to change my mind? I don't want to hold your kids, have my hand grabbed and pressed against your disgustingly distended belly to feel your unborn child kick, listen to your kids screaming in restaurants or movie theatres, or in any other way be reminded that children exist near my world.

gopsdragon
12-12-05, 12:16 PM
BUT...I always wanted to meet your ovaries. :cry:

RicardoHead
12-12-05, 12:29 PM
My dad openly states that he took one look at me and ran out and got a vasectomy. Still, I thought the main reason to have kids was to help you plow the fields and milk the cows. Assuming half survive, you gotta pop out 10 to be sure you have enough farm help on hand to order around.

Otherwise, Princess, thanks for not calling attention to your useless ovaries. Get em removed. Other than that I agree 100% about the social pressure crap - I've even been suspected of being a fag because I don't have kids, but I'd rather people hypothesize based on nothing than raise some brat for the benefit of others. Besides, knowing how kids born today will be slaves of the state tomorrow, I'd rather not inflict that upon my gene pool.

JBMoney
12-12-05, 12:55 PM
Otherwise, Princess, thanks for not calling attention to your useless ovaries. Get em removed.

She already did.

Just in case you didn't see the date, these are old articles that were posted on the old site. There was a pretty long discussion attached to this one too, but I don't know that I'll have the time and patience to find and repost all that stuff.

We were talking about the old articles this weekend and I guess I always thought they were on here somewhere. I searched and they weren't, so I drug them out of the old SQL database for reposting.

Feel free to start a new discussion though. I'm sure she'd drop by for it.

RicardoHead
12-12-05, 02:30 PM
Thanks JB. I was wondering who she was and where these articles came from. Good conversation pieces. I still have yet to get my nuts cut but it is on my list of things to do.

Ether_Elemental
12-13-05, 02:59 AM
You mean there are actual females who DON'T want to have kids? If I still even remotely cared about having female companionship, I'd get me one like her.

RicardoHead
12-13-05, 07:39 AM
I thought about this a lot over night and came to the conclusion that it should be law that all women have their ovaries removed immediately at birth. Spank 'em and cut out their ovaries.


Mandatorily.


And retroactively to births after 1965.

Ojive
12-13-05, 07:49 AM
Mandatorily
Wow east meets the west :o

RicardoHead
12-13-05, 07:58 AM
Wow east meets the west :o
Hey, we do it to cats!

Ojive
12-13-05, 08:14 AM
Feral cats are different. I mean all creatures are created to re-create. But Humans are to be in control over the animals. I would agree in some cases in which certain females are nothing but crack ho baby factories, this might be slimly justified. But to just stop all generations right now might be a wee bit drastic, IMO. I don't have any of my own children, and really have no desire. But far be from me to ever agree to complete sterilization. Or as how I read it.

RicardoHead
12-13-05, 08:34 AM
But Humans are to be in control over the animals.You obviously haven't met my cat. :Poke:


Actually, I'm not overly concerned with human procreation. I only advocate mandatory removal of ovaries so I have one less thing to worry about in life. :cool: